Vancouver motorcyclists set to pay big time for parking, advocate says

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      A Vancouver motorcycling advocate has claimed that council is about to sign off on some of the most expensive motorcycle parking in the world.

      “San Francisco has a combination of both paid and free [parking],” Ian Tootill told the Straight by phone. “Their paid parking—and I know about San Francisco because I used to live there—is the gold standard for rip-off on the West Coast of North America. It is some of the most expensive parking around, yet they just raised their parking price for motorcycles to 40 cents an hour. Forty cents is a fraction of the price that Vancouver is suggesting motorcyclists should pay for parking.”

      That’s assuming the Vision Vancouver-dominated council adopts updated staff recommendations at today’s (May 18) meeting at 2 p.m. As the first item of unfinished business, councillors will vote on accepting several amendments to an April 20 staff report dealing with on-street parking for people with motorcycles and scooters.

      However, according to Tootill, it is not close to what he worked with COPE councillor David Cadman to draft late last year, where the proposal was just on-street provision of parking for motorcycles and could be summed up in one easy sentence: “Change the bylaw and put some green paint on the curb and you’re done.”

      Now the motion has been referred back to staff, and Mayor Gregor Robertson has added a list of amendments that, among other things, stipulate that the parking must be provided for “zero emission” motorcycles, including motor-assisted cycles and electric motorcycles.

      “They are picking on the wrong people by doing that,” Tootill said. “Basically, the zero-emission guys have already got incentives. They can park on the sidewalks already. We are not tripping over zero-emissions bikes on the sidewalks. They are all over the place and no one cares. They are already getting tax breaks, and they are already getting the pleasure of doing something good for the environment.”

      To boot, Tootill said that the report still asks that motorcycles, which already park illegally all over the city, must still take up space in an on-street parking spot. Rather than pay what a car pays, a recommendation in the latest report stipulates motorcycle riders—assuming they all have a cellphone like Tootill does—can dial in to City Hall and get a 50-percent reduction. Tootill said this means that, in the event that a motorcyclist finds a stall and takes up the whole spot, the city loses 50 percent of that stall’s revenue and the problem is still not solved for the motorcyclist.

      “And why are they offering tiered pricing for motorcycles on the basis of emissions when they don’t do that for other vehicles?” Tootill said.

      For Cadman, these are germane questions. He said the proposed system, if adopted by council, would need to be reviewed.

      “We need to go back and look at it and see what the effect is,” Cadman said via cellphone. “If the effect is that nobody is using these end parking spots, that’s important for us to know. If the effect is that everyone is taking up entire parking spots, and we are losing 50 percent of the revenue, that’s important for us to know. I think it’s important to know what the comparators are, with not only other parking in the city—EasyPark allows 50-cent-an-hour motorcycle parking—but more importantly with other jurisdictions.”

      Cadman said he would have preferred it if Vision had not punted his original motion to city staff. The original recommendation would simply have said we should “allow them to park in the end triangles,” he added.

      According to Cadman, that’s not what came back from staff.

      “It’s come back from staff with a recommendation with regard to zero-emission vehicles, which was really not part of my initial recommendations, but in fairness was part of the Greenest City task force recommendations,” Cadman said. “So, what that has done is bring these two together. I don’t think there are four to eight thousand electric vehicles out there right now—at least not permitted ones. And the other ones, which are more or less bicycles, can park on the sidewalk as if they were a bicycle. What we have now is equal access to these spaces by both gasoline-powered and electric motorcycles.”

      Comments

      6 Comments

      Birdy

      May 18, 2010 at 11:15pm

      The price for motorcycle parking should be scaled, based on how loud your bike is.

      Guido

      May 19, 2010 at 3:03pm

      I don't understand the whining. There's plenty of parking in parking lots. If you want to park on the street, PAY for it.

      joker

      May 19, 2010 at 4:00pm

      Quit your whining. Bend over and take it like everyone else in this city has to. The real problem is when government feels that it has to appease everyone and forgets how to balance a budget.

      Tony L

      May 21, 2010 at 5:47pm

      As an avid motorcyclist I think the whole thing is wrong headed. If you want to go downtown then you pay the price. At the same time would someone please make these people with the electric scooters get some training and put them under the same laws as the rest of the motorized public.

      Victoria R

      May 27, 2010 at 10:09am

      As someone who purchased a scooter because it's more environmentally friendly and easier to manage downtown (I live & work downtown), I think it's ridiculous to ask bikers to pay for the tiny spaces which we occupy. Being towed at the same cost as a full sized vehicle makes me think the city would rather I drive an SUV than help clear up the environment. There are no incentives here for 2-wheel drivers, and that's a huge problem. We are doing the city (and other cars) a favour by keeping less cars on the road.