Is it too late to talk to my son about pornography?

Email Dan

What the hell do I say to my straight 14-year-old son about porn? Should I say anything? My sister tells me that all the research shows my son has been looking at porn for three years already. Am I too late?

> Distressed Anxious Dad

According to the Today show and the Boston Globe and the American Family Association and most of what pops up when you Google “kids and porn”, DAD, you’re three years late to this pants-shitting party. “The average age a child first views Internet pornography is 11,” Matt Lauer warned parents on Today seven years ago. “And those kids don’t look away.”

But the alarming statistic Lauer cited—which was used to justify all sorts of proposed crackdowns on online porn—turned out to be total bullshit. Way, way back in 2005, Seth Lubove, a writer for Forbes, traced the stat back to its source. The Today show got it from the Boston Globe; the Boston Globe got it from Family Safe Media, “a small firm in Provo, Utah, [which] is in the business of scaring parents into buying software to protect their kids from Internet smut”. Family Safe Media got it from Internet Filter Review, a website that markets content-blocking software. Internet Filter Review got it from The Drug of the New Millennium, a self-published book about the dangers of porn addiction. Lubove tracked down the self-published author, and guess what? He couldn’t recall where he got that stat. Somewhere along the line, Third Way, “a Washington think tank that helps Democrats grab on to red-state issues”, was seriously pimping the bogus stat to credulous conservative Dems.

Lubove reviewed actual research done by legit social scientists—a real study! A statistically significant population sample! A random-sample survey!—and reported that most kids don’t start actively seeking out online porn until age 14.

So you’re not too late, DAD.

Now, here’s what I think you should tell your son about porn: there’s a lot of it out there, some of it’s pretty fucked up, and he can get in huge and potentially life-derailing trouble if he gets caught watching or downloading the wrong kind of porn, e.g., underage, kiddie, et cetera. You should tell your son that the sex in porn bears about as much resemblance to real-life sex as action movies bear to real-life life. And warn him that a lot of porn is made by and for guys who have no other sexual outlets, i.e., guys who have no wives, no girlfriends, and no hope. Many of these guys—many, not most, but many—are angry and resentful, and their anger and resentment is a poison that creeps into a lot of porn. Sometimes the poison is obvious; sometimes it’s not. If you put it in your straight son’s head that the poisonously misogynist shit he’ll see in some porn is there to appeal to angry losers who can’t get laid, DAD, your son will be less likely to internalize it—because your son doesn’t want to see himself as an angry loser, right?

Finally, DAD, if your son is watching porn, he’s masturbating. Tell him to vary his routine: left hand, right hand, a little lube, a lot of lube, firm grip, loose grip. You don’t want your son to ruin himself for partnered sex by using the “death grip”—a fist clenched tighter than any human throat or pussy can clench—during solo sex. And send him to www.makelovenotporn.com/ for a brisk, sex-positive porn-versus-reality check.


A while ago, I broke up with my long-term boyfriend. A few months after the breakup, I met someone new and we started sleeping together. It was the best sex of my life. Wild, passionate, and unpredictable. New Guy wasn’t looking for anything serious, and neither was I, so we kept things very casual. After a couple months of amazing sex with New Guy, my long-term boyfriend came back into the picture. I told him I’d been seeing other people, but that I missed him and wanted to make things work between us. All good, right? Wrong! I love him so much, and I think we could have a very happy life together, but when we have sex, it just seems so dull and average compared to the volcanic sex that I was having during our time apart. Do I sacrifice an amazing sex life for a happy life of decidedly average sex with the man I love? Help!

> Missing Amazing Sex

You’re not going to be happy having safe, boring, predictable sex with Mr. Long Term for the long term, right? Not after all that wild, passionate, unpredictable sex with Mr. New Guy. So if things don’t improve, your relationship with Mr. Long Term is doomed. So you have nothing to lose by slapping your cards down on the table, MAS.

Tell Mr. Long Term the truth: the sex has to get better. Now, maybe Mr. Long Term is the problem (he could be lousy at sex) or maybe it’s the combo of you and Mr. Long Term that’s the problem (maybe you two just don’t click sexually), and the relationship is doomed no matter what you do. But there’s a chance your problem is a relatively common hang-up, MAS. It’s possible that you, or Mr. Long Term, or you and Mr. Long Term feel inhibited during sex because you’re in love, and people who are in love are supposed to have sex one way (you’re supposed to make safe, boring, predictable love). But people who aren’t in love—people like you and Mr. New Guy—are free to have sex another way (they’re allowed to have wild, passionate, and unpredictable fucks).

Give Mr. Long Term permission to fuck you like he’s never going to see you again. You should fuck him the same way. Fuck each other like the stakes are low—fuck like it’s casual; fuck like it could end at any time. The “lovemaking” inhibition can be literally fucked to death, if it’s indeed the problem here, and once you’ve fucked it good and dead, you’ll see that you can have a happy life, a committed relationship, and wild, passionate, unpredictable sex—with the same person!

But you gotta want it bad enough to fuck for it.


I’m a straight woman in a monogamous, long-distance relationship with a straight man. Last weekend, I went out with my roommate (also a straight woman, also in a committed relationship). We went to a club, took some E, and did way too many tequila shots. We stumbled home and ended up finger-banging each other in my bed. I have never had sexual feelings for my roommate, and she says she doesn’t have them for me. Do I have to tell my boyfriend about this indiscretion? I know he would be confused and upset. It was a strange, one-time thing that I plan on never doing again.

> Not A Lesbian I Think

If it was a one-time thing, if you learned your lesson, if you’re sure it won’t happen again, if you didn’t contract anything, and if there are no fetuses gestating (which, barring a miracle, is not an issue for you), you don’t need to disclose this indiscretion. Chalk it up to the E and the tequila, change your sheets, scrub under your fingernails, and spare your boyfriend the upsetting details.


Gay Republicans, Dan. Why? How?

> Confused

Self-loathing, that’s why. Homophobia, that’s how.

 

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Comments

9 Comments

MOM of a teen,

Oct 24, 2012 at 10:10am

Thank-You Dan.

lone voice of dissent...

Oct 24, 2012 at 12:48pm

that is such bad advice from Mr. Savage to the father of 14 year old. God almighty, the LAST thing I would want to suddenly pop in my head during a personal pud pulling would be my dad's voice telling me to vary the grip. That would invariably lead to the wrong sort of mental visualization, state, arousal.... forget it, turn on the TV.

Bad advice, parents. Gimme a break. Boys have figured out how to masturbate since the dawn of time. They don't need parental advice on the matter. Period.

If i EVER needed advice on sexual matters, it went to my peers, NOT my parents. EUGH!

Sam Weerdo

Oct 25, 2012 at 7:10am

Sorry Dan, but I can't agree. In a perfect world, parents could be completely open with their children regarding sex, but in reality, very few teens will take advice from parents. It will just freak them out and make the kids want to leave home or avoid their parents as much as possible to avoid awkward unwanted sex talk.

It's better to be clever and indirect about it, and teach universal non-sexual values like respecting woman as equals, and separating fact from fiction.

Coast Guarder

Oct 25, 2012 at 8:36am

Hey voice of dissent...depending on when you grew up, it is unlikely you had 24/7 instant access to the mind boggling amount of readily accessible hardcore pornography in any shape, flavour, colour or size imaginable. If you are over 30 it is far more likely that porn came in VHS or magazine format and in all likelihood had been okayed by some sort of classification board before entering into Canada. This would have ensured it contained no minors, graphic depictions of violence and sex together, beastiality, etc etc.
That is not the case these days. The internet allows access to this sort of material within seconds at anytime. And so it is incumbent on the parents of today to ensure that their teenagers or tweenagers understand that what they may see is not reality. And as Dan said, knowing who certain types of porn are made for and by whom can also go a long way in dispelling any false idea that what they are viewing is "normal" or that that is how most people engage in sex.

Considering my peers had pretty much the same reference material to draw their "experience" from as I did, they weren't exactly great founts of carnal knowledge or erotic esoterica. Penthouse Forum was about as out there as it got. Today's 14 year old is about four mouse clicks away from blogs about the best drugs to screw on, HD videos showing how to get alligator clamps to pinch but not too hard and the latest review for a 3400 watt Vietnamese Spin-Fuck Chair (with strobing probe action). A little parental guidance while possibly embarrassing now is infinitely preferable to being jailed for possession of child pornography or trying out your wicked choke/slap combo on your prom date only to have her older brother show you his new UFC curb stomp.

agreed

Oct 25, 2012 at 11:58am

I wish my parents had been forthright and open about sex when I was a kid. Instead, I relied on the movies and friends - kids make up a lot of stupid crap to sound as if they have a clue/hope in hell. It would have spared a lot of encounters that never would have happened had it been alright to talk. Here's the thing: your kid will never come to you for advise and probably won't want to hear about it. It is up to you, THE PARENT, to insist on having an open table discussion that is above all, HONEST AND FORTHRIGHT. Good call, Mr. Savage.

lone voice of dissent...

Oct 25, 2012 at 12:10pm

Hey I jacked off to Penthouse Forum too! After I found it under my brother's bed. The first story I read was about a guy remembering his youth on a farm and catching the farmhand doing a cow.

I should have added to my lambast: "the last paragraph of Dan's advice is so wrong"....

I agree with you on everything else. Most of the porn sites out there are too much for adult ME, altho' I must say that today's generation can take a LOT more, visually, than wimp me.

pipecleaner

Oct 25, 2012 at 2:01pm

Dan, I don't agree that a teen who looks at porn will for sure be cleaning the pipes. I never choked it as a teen because guys who got caught whacking it were made fun of, so it seemed like a shameful thing to do. I don't think i cleaned the pipes until i was 30 actually.

Chris Van

Oct 25, 2012 at 4:33pm

my straight 14 year old son? i used to tell my dad i was straight when i was 14 too...seems like an odd way to ask a question...what does it matter if he is straight or not?

Sue Blue

Nov 9, 2012 at 12:38pm

As a parent, mom or dad -
Talk to your children
about sex
about respect
about kindness
about self discovery
about everything..... anything
And start young.

And most importantly - LISTEN

Listen to your children when they talk about sex, respect, kindness, self discovery, about everything....anything

don't wait for 14, or 12, or whatever....

The foundation you build for those conversation when they are young (and believe in you) - is the foundation that will always be there. It will hold up for those "tough" conversations....

I thank my mother for what she gave me - by being one to LISTEN and to TALK

I hope my boys will thank me when they are older (even when it seems embarassing in the moment - while they are younger)

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